“When I interviewed Havel in the early mid-80s, I think it was on the mid-80s, he was just leaving prison. Nobody would guess that one day he would be the president. Back to those days he was a very modest and witty person. He was a very unique president in the sense that he filled the need of being a very honest and creative president. To give the country something, not to take anything for himself. Power, or something.”